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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 12:06 PM
    Mercedes killed off the Maybach name only to revive it with the latest generation W222 S-Class. The problem Maybach had is that it was essentially an S-Class with a premium price tag. Sure, they changed some things on the exterior as well as the interior and added Maybach badging. That is basically what this new 2016 Mercedes-Maybach S600 is. Except it is not pretending to be anything other than an S-Class. A $200k S-Class. That money buys you a beautiful and spacious interior. Also a 523 horsepower and 612 lb-ft of torque twin turbocharged M279 6.0 liter V12. The engine for whatever reason is detuned from the S65 AMG 621 horsepower and 738 lb-ft of torque. The Mercedes-Maybach S600 may be aimed at its premium British rivals but the Bentley is more than twice the price. The Maybach premium does not bring it close in prestige, position, and price. When playing at this level those things matter. It is also why Maybach failed in the first place. The Bentley does not look like a fancy version of something cheaper. It is premium to begin with. It simply is what it is which is a heavy, powerful, and opulent British boat. It needs those 811 lb-ft of torque from the twin turbo L-Series V8 to move its ample sized 6041 pound body around. At 5308 pounds the Mercedes-Maybach is the lightweight here. MotorTrend in their comparison comments on how it feels sportier and that it handles better. Does anyone in this class really care about the handling prowess or sportiness? If so, why not just opt for the S65 AMG to begin with as it handles better and is faster than either of these cars? The Bentley may be heavier, it may be slower, and it may handle worse. But it is far better at being a Bentley or even a Maybach than the Mercedes is. The Mercedes-Maybach comes off as an S-Class doing its best impression of a Rolls or Bentley. That just isn't good enough in this segment. You want the real thing. 2016 Bentley Mulsanne Speed 2016 Mercedes-Maybach S600 POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS DRIVETRAIN LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD Front-engine, RWD ENGINE TYPE Twin-turbo 90-deg V-8, alum block/heads Twin-turbo 60-deg V-12, alum block/heads VALVETRAIN OHV, 2 valves/cyl SOHC, 3 valves/cyl DISPLACEMENT 411.9 cu in/6,750cc 364.9 cu in/5,980cc COMPRESSION RATIO 8.9:1 9.0:1 POWER (SAE NET) 530 hp @ 4,200 rpm 523 hp @ 4,900 rpm TORQUE (SAE NET) 811 lb-ft @ 1,750 rpm 612 lb-ft @ 1,900 rpm REDLINE 4,500 rpm 6,200 rpm WEIGHT TO POWER 11.4 lb/hp 10.1 lb/hp TRANSMISSION 8-speed automatic 7-speed automatic AXLE/FINAL-DRIVE RATIO 2.92:1/1.95:1 2.42:1/1.77:1 SUSPENSION, FRONT; REAR Control arms, air springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar; multilink, air springs, adj shocks, anti-roll bar Multilink, hydraulic and coil springs, adj shocks; multilink, hydraulic and coil springs, adj shocks STEERING RATIO 16.5:1 (est) 15.5:1 TURNS LOCK-TO-LOCK 3.4 2.2 BRAKES, F;R 15.7-in vented disc; 14.6-in vented disc, ABS 15.4-in vented, drilled disc; 14.2-in vented, drilled disc, ABS WHEELS, F;R 9.0 x 21-in, forged aluminum 8.5 x 20-in; 9.5 x 20-in, cast aluminum TIRES, F;R 265/40R21 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 245/40R20 99Y; 275/35R20 102Y Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 DIMENSIONS WHEELBASE 128.6 in 132.5 in TRACK, F/R 63.6/65.0 in 63.9/64.5 in LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 219.5 x 75.8 x 59.9 in 214.5 x 74.8 x 58.8 in TURNING CIRCLE 41.3 ft 42.3 ft CURB WEIGHT 6,041 lb 5,308 lb WEIGHT DIST., F/R 49/51% 51/49% SEATING CAPACITY 4 4 HEADROOM, F/R 40.1/38.1 in 42.3/37.9 in LEGROOM, F/R 41.9/42.9 in 41.4/40.0 in SHOULDER ROOM, F/R 52.7/52.7 in (est) 59.7/58.7 in CARGO VOLUME 15.6 cu ft 12.3 cu ft TEST DATA ACCELERATION TO MPH 0-30 1.9 sec 2.0 sec 0-40 2.9 2.8 0-50 3.9 3.8 0-60 5.0 4.8 0-70 6.5 6.1 0-80 8.3 7.5 0-90 10.3 9.0 0-100 12.7 10.8 PASSING, 45-65 MPH 2.4 2.1 QUARTER MILE 13.6 sec @ 103.3 mph 13.2 sec @ 110.9 mph BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 110 ft 114 ft LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.84 g (avg) 0.90 g (avg) MT FIGURE EIGHT 26.6 sec @ 0.71 g (avg) 25.8 sec @ 0.75 g (avg) TOP-GEAR REVS @ 60 MPH 1,400 rpm 1,300 rpm CONSUMER INFO BASE PRICE $341,325 $191,975 PRICE AS TESTED $411,123 $204,585 STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL Yes/yes Yes/yes AIRBAGS Dual front, f/r side/head Dual front, f/r side, f/r head BASIC WARRANTY 3 yrs/unlimited 4 yrs/50,000 miles POWERTRAIN WARRANTY 3 yrs/unlimited 4 yrs/50,000 miles ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE 3 yrs/unlimited 4 yrs/50,000 miles FUEL CAPACITY 25.0 gal 23.2 gal EPA CITY/HWY/COMB ECON 11/18/13 mpg 13/21/15 mpg ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 306/187 kW-hrs/100 miles 259/160 kW-hrs/100 miles CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 1.46 lb/mile 1.24 lb/mile RECOMMENDED FUEL Unleaded premium Unleaded premium Source
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:35 AM
    Coming up... have fun guys.
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    Today, 11:31 AM
    This is not a race you see every day. We all know diesels can put out a ton of torque. That is why semi-trailer trucks use turbo diesel motors to tow. This particular Kenworth W900 has some upgrades to its motor and also a driver who clearly knows how to shift the big heavy truck. The E60 M5 is not a torque monster with its 5.0 liter S85 V10 but it certainly has a lot of power and is light compared to a giant truck. It gets the lead here but once the turbo diesel spools and you see the black smoke pouring out it catches up and just barely passes at the finish line. The M5 owner probably would like a rolling highway rematch:
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:29 AM
    This is not a race you see every day. We all know diesels can put out a ton of torque. That is why semi-trailer trucks use turbo diesel motors to tow. This particular Kenworth W900 has some upgrades to its motor and also a driver who clearly knows how to shift the big heavy truck. The E60 M5 is not a torque monster with its 5.0 liter S85 V10 but it certainly has a lot of power and is light compared to a giant truck. It gets the lead here but once the turbo diesel spools and you see the black smoke pouring out it catches up and just barely passes at the finish line. The M5 owner probably would like a rolling highway rematch:
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:16 AM
    This place is the F'ing best!
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:12 AM
    Exactly. That's why people should focus more on the weight of the package. Nothing feels like a high revving NA motor in a lightweight car. It's like a race car for the street. That's what Ferrari used to deliver.
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  • Sticky's Avatar
    Today, 11:09 AM
    Meth certainly is awesome. I think we have to conclude it's the source for supplemental fuel here.
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    Today, 10:38 AM
    BevT314586, we appreciate you taking the time to join.
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  • isved's Avatar
    Today, 10:27 AM
    Thank you! Here's a video of a partial throttle no nitrous pull. it's a fun car.
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