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    • ESS VT2-625 supercharged E92 M3 with claimed 570 wheel horsepower at 7.5 psi beaten by heads/cam/intake/exhaust Camaro SS with 520 wheel horsepower

      Very surprising race here with an ESS VT2-625 supercharged M3 taken down by an all motor LS3 Camaro SS. On paper, this race should easily go the M3's way considering it is claimed to have 570 wheel horsepower at 7.5 psi and also being the significantly lighter car. 570 wheel with a dual clutch transmission is good for 130 MPH trap speeds which a 520 wheel Camaro SS won't match. More power, less weight, dual clutch trans, the M3 should win rather easily. So what gives?

      The Camaro SS with the LS3 naturally aspirated V8 has modified heads, a cam, intake, and exhaust said to be good for around 520 wheel horsepower.


      BimmerBoost has no explanation other than the M3 likely not making the power claimed (it's easier to race on a dyno than in the real world) and possibly not having the right pulley either. Recently a BimmerBoost forum member stated they had a different pulley shipped with their ESS kit than they should have so it's possible this M3 owner isn't making the horsepower or boost they thought they were. The M3 is also said to be a DCT so how a dual clutch car making more power, shifting faster, and with less weight can lose is beyond reason unless the Camaro has more going on than he is letting on (nitrous).

      This article was originally published in forum thread: ***VIDEO*** BMW E92 M3 (ESS VT-625) vs All-Motor Camaro SS (Mr. TORQ) [HD] started by AWD75 View original post
      Comments 229 Comments
      1. RnmEvo9's Avatar
        RnmEvo9 -
        Wow, pretty impressive for an all motor car doing that against a boosted one. Props!
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        horsepower sells cars, torque wins races
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        where is this located? not many matte bvlue dct cars out there with a 625 kit
      1. leo985i's Avatar
        leo985i -
        So you are telling me that heavy ass camaro with 520whp vs the lighter M3 with DCT and 570whp is faster than the ///M? Wtf?
      1. Eric335's Avatar
        Eric335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
        So you are telling me that heavy ass camaro with 520whp vs the lighter M3 with DCT and 570whp is faster than the ///M? Wtf?
        My thoughts exactly. At least the ///M is better looking Click here to enlarge
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        torque<--
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
        So you are telling me that heavy ass camaro with 520whp vs the lighter M3 with DCT and 570whp is faster than the ///M? Wtf?
        Torque... That LS has boat loads of it from most every rpm especially down low. The M3 while efficient does not have the Tq to move it down low. DCT helps it not get destroyed and you can clearly see the nose lift on each run on the M3 he is WOT even jumps a slight bit. But tq moves you and that's a great display in what tq does for a car. HP is nice for damn sure but Tq down low and in the mid range is hard to beat. Great run and the M looks the business. Feels local for some reason.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        highly unlikely. that camaro is fast, but some people have accused him of having some go go juice.. but then again, ya never know.. need to find the M3 owner..
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by RnmEvo9 Click here to enlarge
        Wow, pretty impressive for an all motor car doing that against a boosted one. Props!
        Thanks!

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        horsepower sells cars, torque wins races
        +1

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        where is this located? not many matte bvlue dct cars out there with a 625 kit
        In mexico Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
        So you are telling me that heavy ass camaro with 520whp vs the lighter M3 with DCT and 570whp is faster than the ///M? Wtf?
        To be honest, I was expecting to get beaten, but like every person said, torque won the race for this one.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        Torque... That LS has boat loads of it from most every rpm especially down low. The M3 while efficient does not have the Tq to move it down low. DCT helps it not get destroyed and you can clearly see the nose lift on each run on the M3 he is WOT even jumps a slight bit. But tq moves you and that's a great display in what tq does for a car. HP is nice for damn sure but Tq down low and in the mid range is hard to beat. Great run and the M looks the business. Feels local for some reason.
        Yes I noticed the jumps as well, but I didnt want to write them in the vid., since some people can $#@! about it. Even though I have a big cam that really shines on high rpm's, still managed to pull at low end as well.
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Here we go with excuses... If he is spraying that shot is small as hell, subtle and no crazy hit of power.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        Thanks!


        im gonna take a shot in the dark and say the maro is yours?...lol Click here to enlarge
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        highly unlikely. that camaro is fast, but some people have accused him of having some go go juice.. but then again, ya never know.. need to find the M3 owner..
        really? cmon man
      1. folgrz's Avatar
        folgrz -
        There is no way in those runs that the camaro is on the juice, way too close to even consider. A little disappointed with the m3 Click here to enlarge
      1. AWD75's Avatar
        AWD75 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        highly unlikely. that camaro is fast, but some people have accused him of having some go go juice.. but then again, ya never know.. need to find the M3 owner..
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        Here we go with excuses... If he is spraying that shot is small as hell, subtle and no crazy hit of power.
        No, there is no nitrous. I even put the engine bay shots of the camaro in the vid as well. I will be dialing a 200 shot in a month or so tho... You can find all the info about the car in this link:

        http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258632


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        im gonna take a shot in the dark and say the maro is yours?...lol Click here to enlarge
        Yep
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
        No, there is no nitrous. I even put the engine bay shots of the camaro in the vid as well. I will be dialing a 200 shot in a month or so tho... You can find all the info about the car in this link:

        http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258632

        Yep

        nice dude...where exactly are you located?
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        if your 6spd which sounded like it your rowing through those gears pretty damn good
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        im not calling BS. ANd if i were, it would be more so on the M3. but taken at face value, i dont see how a 570hp dct m3 WONT PULL on a 520hp 4k lb camaro.

        just a few hours ago, some of you were talking about a 700lb and 40hp difference, yet here it doesnt apply?
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        im not calling BS. ANd if i were, it would be more so on the M3. but taken at face value, i dont see how a 570hp dct m3 WONT PULL on a 520hp 4k lb camaro.

        just a few hours ago, some of you were talking about a 700lb and 40hp difference, yet here it doesnt apply?
        camaros arent as heavy as a V is to my knowledge tho...they are about 3700lbs vs 4200lbs
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        After an official review, the video is deemed Legit.

        I dont like it, but i cant see any real flaws with the performance of both cars.

        Seems the early TQ gave the jump and the M couldnt run him down. I find that hard to believe given the nature of both cars, advantage/disadvantage of each,again, I dont like it, but i cant dispute it Click here to enlarge


        @AWD75 do you know what exhaust? have you met the guy before, know his screen name, anything?
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        Seems the early TQ gave the jump and the M couldnt run him down. I find that hard to believe given the nature of both cars, advantage/disadvantage of each,again, I dont like it, but i cant dispute it Click here to enlarge
        lol