• M157 versus M133 Round 2 - A45 AMG versus W212 E63 AMG drag race

      We have already seen a drag race between these two motors previously as Auto Express drag raced the A45 AMG versus the CLS63 AMG wagon. This time around, the A45 AMG is going to go up against the lighter E63 AMG sedan. The E63 AMG has brute force on its side with the 5.5 liter twin turbo M157 V8 although this is the standard 550 horsepower version and not the 577 horsepower 4Matic all wheel drive AMG S model.


      The A45 AMG has 'only' 355 horsepower but it is underrated. It also is mated to an all wheel drive drivetrain with a 7-speed dual clutch transmission versus the automatic in the E63 AMG. The M133 2.0 liter turbocharged motor is proving potent as our friends in Australia showed the platform is powering the A45/CLA45 AMG to 12 second 1/4 mile runs in the ~110 trap speed range.

      So how does little brother do versus its big brother? Check out how CAR did pitting the vehicles against each other in a drag race below.

      P.S. CAR, a drag race without trap speeds is only telling part of the picture. You're professionals? Really?

      This article was originally published in forum thread: M157 versus M133 Round 2 - A45 AMG versus W212 E63 AMG drag race started by PetroC63 View original post
      Comments 21 Comments
      1. onisyndicate's Avatar
        onisyndicate -
        LMFAO yeah boi! I think the E63 should destroy the A45 as it should. Just saying and 13 seconds on the 1/4 for the E63 is horrid!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onisyndicate Click here to enlarge
        LMFAO yeah boi! I think the E63 should destroy the A45 as it should. Just saying and 13 seconds on the 1/4 for the E63 is horrid!
        The E63 AMG S will destroy it but in a drag race the A45 holds its own pretty well against a poor launching E63. From a roll it obviously would be no contest.
      1. cturbos's Avatar
        cturbos -
        That little thing is fast!!!!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        It's definitely quick! Going to be a fun little car.
      1. JonsC63AMG's Avatar
        JonsC63AMG -
        Surprising result.
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        This title is ridiculous.
        The M157 $hits on the M133.
        Both engines shouldn't even be in the same sentence, let along in a race.
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        BS Video. There is no way this can happen in reality
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        This title is ridiculous.
        The M157 $hits on the M133.
        Both engines shouldn't even be in the same sentence, let along in a race.
        Title is M157 versus M133 what's the problem?

        We get it, the M157 has more potential. The M133 is showing some strength though what's the issue?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        BS Video. There is no way this can happen in reality
        This is the second real world video showing it sure can.
      1. Jacob502's Avatar
        Jacob502 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This is the second real world video showing it sure can.
        Well it's not a REAL video obviously. This video is done to market the A45.

        Put me behind the wheels of that E63 above and ill show you what it REALLY does to the A45
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jacob502 Click here to enlarge
        Well it's not a REAL video obviously. This video is done to market the A45.

        Put me behind the wheels of that E63 above and ill show you what it REALLY does to the A45
        We we all know the E63 is faster and more powerful. But the M133 platform due to its all wheel drive and dual clutch transmission is showing how efficient it is. There is no question about the M157's raw power advantage.
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Title is M157 versus M133 what's the problem?

        We get it, the M157 has more potential. The M133 is showing some strength though what's the issue?
        Because if I wanted to visit a ricer site, or buy a ricer car, I would.
        I don't.
        The thought of either makes me sick.

        This is a performance site and a $50,000 car.
        Puny 2.0L engines boosted to the edge of reliability have no business on a performance site or in a AMG car.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        Because if I wanted to visit a ricer site, or buy a ricer car, I would.
        I don't.
        The thought of either makes me sick
        It's not a ricer car it's an AMG. The fact you are equating it to one shows ignorance IMO.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        This is a performance site and a $50,000 car.
        Puny 2.0L engines boosted to the edge of reliability have no business on a performance site or in a AMG car.
        Seems AMG disagrees and the video shows it is quite potent.

        Your points are rather ridiculous. Absurd really is the better term.
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's not a ricer car it's an AMG. The fact you are equating it to one shows ignorance IMO.



        Seems AMG disagrees and the video shows it is quite potent.

        Your points are rather ridiculous. Absurd really is the better term.
        Who the F are YOU?
        Slow you're roll.

        I don't need some internet jockey calling me ignorant or ridiculous when I've been daily driving 9 second cars for 20 years and I have world class sport cars in my garage.
        Thanks.

        I respect the 2014 E63 and I am hopeful for the next C63.
        But, the CLA45 is an overpriced STI.
        Deal with it.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        Who the F are YOU?
        Slow you're roll.

        I don't need some internet jockey calling me ignorant or ridiculous when I've been daily driving 9 second cars for 20 years and I have world class sport cars in my garage.
        Thanks.

        I respect the 2014 E63 and I am hopeful for the next C63.
        But, the CLA45 is an overpriced STI.
        Deal with it.
        I'm the guy who owns the site that's who I am. Who are YOU to call an efficient 2.0 liter motor and the most powerful production four-cylinder motor rice? How is it rice? This isn't some weak Honda making more decibels than horses this is some serious engineering. That is anything but rice.

        The CLA45 AMG isn't an STI, it isn't rice, and it's a great entry level car. You're position is ignorant. Deal with that.
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I'm the guy who owns the site that's who I am. Who are YOU to call an efficient 2.0 liter motor and the most powerful production four-cylinder motor rice? How is it rice? This isn't some weak Honda making more decibels than horses this is some serious engineering. That is anything but rice.

        The CLA45 AMG isn't an STI, it isn't rice, and it's a great entry level car. You're position is ignorant. Deal with that.
        I don't give a F.
        Since you own a URL, you can tell a guy who's been building cars for 20 years that he's ignorant?
        Give me a break.

        The CLA45 is still joke for $50k+.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        I don't give a F.
        Since you own a URL, you can tell a guy who's been building cars for 20 years that he's ignorant?
        Give me a break.

        The CLA45 is still joke for $50k+.
        Yes I can absolutely tell you that you are ignorant as that is exactly what your perspective. Calling a car rice because you equate it to a boy racer crowd due to having a four-cylinder is flat out $#@!ing idiotic. It's stupid.

        If the car is such a joke how does it go toe to toe with an E63 AMG in a drag race? Yeah wow what a pile of junk. This is a smart move by Mercedes and since AMG decided to produce this car of course there will be discussion on it as this IS a Mecedes forum. Calling a ricer forum because it caters to new motors is also ignorant and idiotic. Period.
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        If the car is such a joke how does it go toe to toe with an E63 AMG in a drag race?
        Now, who's the ignorant one?
        I rest my case.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        Now, who's the ignorant one?
        I rest my case.
        You really didn't have a case.

        This is a very efficient platform and it's awesome. Putting it down because it's a 2.0 liter four cylinder is just absurd.
      1. SCGT's Avatar
        SCGT -
        Great engineering being done at Mercedes. It's one of many directions they're going and doing a good job, as it clearly seen. I'm pretty sure no one in the history of the universe would actually think an A45 is comparable to the E63 when viewed as a whole. I see a vid like this and think "wow, nice job Merc engineers, making that AWD and boosted little 2 liter put up a good showing." Pretty sure no one would ever watch that vid and think the A45 = E63 performance. Come on.