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    • N63 versus N63TU - BMS Stage I BMW 2014 F10 550i N63TU tune Dynojet results

      BMW switched from the 4.4 liter N63 twin turbo V8 to the N63TU (Technical Update) 4.4 liter twin turbo V8 in most models for the 2013 model year. The main difference between the N63TU and the N63 is the addition of BMW's Valvetronic (variable valve lift) system in the update. This also included a boost in horsepower output to 445 horsepower from the previously rated 400 horsepower for the standard N63 V8.


      What is interesting to note is the horsepower boost seems to be mostly on paper. Take a look at this dynograph from a 2011 N63 powered 550i with Stage I and Stage II BMS tunes. 392 wheel horsepower stock and then 448 wheel horsepower with the Stage I tune and 463 wheel horsepower with the Stage II.


      Now here is a 2014 N63TU powered 550i. Keep in mind this vehicle has downpipes which do not seem to be adding power on the stock tune. The baseline is 385 wheel horsepower. With the Stage I tune, 452 wheel horsepower for a gain just under 70 wheel horsepower.


      The baseline shows both motors with about the same peak power although more torque on the N63TU. Is that due to the downpipes? Possibly, but the motors are surprisingly close at the wheels despite the crank horsepower rating change. The motors are also close when tuned so it appears the N63 is not giving up much of anything to the N63TU as for now it is making more power although that is due to more boost.

      We will have to see numbers from an N63TU without downpipes to see the effect they are having and have a better comparison. Additionally, it will be nice to see Stage 2 numbers with more boost on the N63TU. Those who have the N63 can rest easy knowing the addition of Valvetronic to the motor is not some huge loss for them in tuning potential and may turn out to be a benefit.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2014 550i n63tu dyno started by Terry@BMS View original post
      Comments 11 Comments
      1. alextremo's Avatar
        alextremo -
        Very nice gains...

        IIRC another member (@jimefam maybe?) showed significant HP losses on the dyno by adding catless dps without a tune. Power picked up when tuned - I wonder if that's what's going on here.
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alextremo Click here to enlarge
        Exactly.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        The plot thickens a bit. Another 2014 550i without downpipes turned up today at the dyno. Below 4500rpm the results were the same as the one with downpipes but above 4500rpm power was up to "normal" levels. Unfortunately I didn't have any diagnostic equipment with me so I was not able to get any logs, etc, and after a couple stock runs the transmission decided to down shift each run. So the tuned run is only from 4000rpm up. But looks like the same healthy power delta tuned.

        Also attached is an updated comparison to our stock 2011 and this stock 2014.
      1. alex@ABRhouston's Avatar
        alex@ABRhouston -
        neat Click here to enlarge


        I have two S63's that need some JB love at the shop Click here to enlarge
        I'll email yall tomorrow for another order Click here to enlarge
      1. Jimefam's Avatar
        Jimefam -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alextremo Click here to enlarge
        Very nice gains...

        IIRC another member (@jimefam maybe?) showed significant HP losses on the dyno by adding catless dps without a tune. Power picked up when tuned - I wonder if that's what's going on here.
        Yup I think the downpipes are useless at this low power and actually hurt overall. Im sure when people are able to add bigger turbos etc catless dp's will help.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        The power loss on the n63tu w/ downpipes above 5000rpm is a mystery at the moment. The DME is definitely reducing its boost target there. Both stock and tuned. But why? AFR & timing are normal. I doubt the downpipes make much of a massflow difference and even if they did then the tuned run would have more of a drop which it didn't. It might be as simple as some sort of a DSC torque limiter or intervention happening. But it's so consistent both tuned and stock it seems like it's mapped out that way. For some odd reason. Both cars are apparently within a month or two in terms of their build date, both on the same fuel, etc.
      1. alextremo's Avatar
        alextremo -
        Another interesting dyno - Active were advertising 40hp gains with dps and exhaust, no tune here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...s-Dyno-results

        However, this is the only dyno I've seen show gains on this car with dps, which is the main reason why mine are still OEM.
      1. aaaaaaa's Avatar
        aaaaaaa -
        Could it be that valvetronic is just for comfort/driveability and adds no performance gain?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by aaaaaaa Click here to enlarge
        Could it be that valvetronic is just for comfort/driveability and adds no performance gain?
        I think it's more of an efficiency tech.
      1. blkclk550's Avatar
        blkclk550 -
        very weird good thing i went with catted dp's