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    • 2014 F22 M235i test figures including curb weight, 0-60, 1/4 mile, skidpad, and weight distribution - Inferior to the E82 1M

      Finally some solid independent data on the new 2014 F22 M235i. This car is an unofficial successor to the E82 1M taking its place in the lineup as the entry level turbocharged six-cylinder performance coupe. Unlike the 1M the M235i has the N55 inline-6 turbo motor and not the N54 inline-6 twin turbo motor. It also comes in a bit heavier than the E82 1M with a curb weight of 3494 pounds versus the E82 1M which weighs 3339 pounds.


      The F22 2-Series is not exactly as light as one would hope for the size. It is about 3-Series weight which makes one scratch their head as to the advantage over the 335i. That said, handling numbers are about on par with the 1M as the car pulls an impressive .97g on the skidpad and the 1M managed a .98g.

      Weight distribution is shying away from BMW's famed 50/50 with a 53/47 front to back. That is not what a BMW's weight distribution is supposed to look like and the turbocharged motors are making BMW's nose heavy. The 1M managed a better 51/49 which is closer to BMW's own stated ideals. 53/47? That looks more like an Audi figure than BMW.

      The M235i is not available with a dual clutch transmission unfortunately. A manual or 8-speed automatic is available and MotorTrend tested this car with the automatic. 0-60 comes in 4.4 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 13.0 @ 106.6. Also slightly worse than the 1M which managed 0-60 in 4.2 and the 1/4 mile in 12.8 @ 109.6 although different ECU software alone could change this. Still, the M235i is slower stock for stock.

      Essentially, the F22 2-Series and the M235i in particular seem to be a bit of a step back at least in performance from the E82 1-Sereis and the BMW 1M. Looks like there is room for BMW to squeeze in an M2 model afterall.

      2014 BMW M235i
      BASE PRICE $44,025
      PRICE AS TESTED $46,025
      VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, RWD, 4-pass, 2-door coupe
      ENGINE 3.0L/320-hp/330-lb-ft turbo DOHC 24-valve I-6
      TRANSMISSION 8-speed automatic
      CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3494 lb (53/47%)
      WHEELBASE 105.9 in
      LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 174.5 x 69.8 x 55.2 in
      0-60 MPH 4.4 sec
      QUARTER MILE 13.0 sec @ 106.6 mph
      BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 103 ft
      LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.97 g (avg)
      MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.9 sec @ 0.78 g (avg)
      EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON 22/32/25 mpg
      ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 153/105 kW-hrs/100 miles
      CO2 EMISSIONS 0.76 lb/mile







      This article was originally published in forum thread: 2014 F22 M235i test figures including curb weight, 0-60, 1/4 mile, skidpad, and weight distribution - Inferior to the E82 1M started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 73 Comments
      1. Group.america's Avatar
        Group.america -
        Curb weight loaded with my ass in it and a load of fuel will be almost as much as my 99 540i... bad JOKE for a MODERN performance CAR
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yep pretty boring. Would be so cool for them to get in on the four-cylinder war between Audi and Mercedes. I mean it's stuff that like that which shows who is the best engine builder. BMW used to be the best...
        Please no, I spent the weekend in our shop's CLA 45 (~10 hour road trip and two track days) and I just test drove the M235i an hour ago. It's tough to say which car feels more powerful because I drove the M235i full of four people and the CLA had tons of luggage, jacks, tools, etc. in it but the M235i's motor is definitely better. I don't think the software in the M235i is the same as the power kit, it feels so much more responsive than any N55 I've driven. Almost doesn't feel turbocharged and it doesn't seem to run out of breath up top as badly as N55s typically do. It just pulls hard from any RPM and it sounds so great. The CLA 45 is much, much more laggy and its top end feels pretty soft compared to its extremely powerful midrange.

        Also, the CLA has a low redline and revs pretty freely so you need to be paying attention to avoid banging into the rev limiter, it slows you down for what feels like an eternity before it finally listens to your repeated requests for an upshift. M235i's auto has much better programming. I actually stopped using the CLA's paddles because there is a delay programmed into their response, that car is at its best with the transmission in S mode. It's actually very aggressive and keeps the revs way up high.

        When it comes to handling there is simply no comparison, the M235i was designed around the Pilot Super Sport which is one of my favorite tires and it just runs circles around the CLA, the BMW feels alive in your hands while the CLA just feels like any other small Benz. You can always tell the CLA is primarily front wheel drive, you get a fair amount of front wheel slip before it sends any torque to the rear and it actually torque steers a little.

        I'm pretty much rambling at this point, the CLA is a great, great car and it's ridiculously quick off the line but it doesn't make me want to own it. I NEED an M235i in my life.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        I'm ok with it...leaves room for an M2 which really needs to happen. Just think...take the M4 and scale it down...that would be a great car. A friend drove an M235i the other day...he said the steering was not nearly as nice as an M5 (no comp pack) he drove right after. It's fast and capable but not too engaging. So I really think they are leaving room for an M2. Remember, this isn't an all out M car. The weight does suck though.
      1. rawad1017's Avatar
        rawad1017 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        I'm pretty much rambling at this point, the CLA is a great, great car and it's ridiculously quick off the line but it doesn't make me want to own it. I NEED an M235i in my life.
        thanks for that. can you also tell us your experience as to which feels bigger to sit in, the 1 series vs. m235i?
      1. bmw335iguy's Avatar
        bmw335iguy -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        Please no, I spent the weekend in our shop's CLA 45 (~10 hour road trip and two track days) and I just test drove the M235i an hour ago. It's tough to say which car feels more powerful because I drove the M235i full of four people and the CLA had tons of luggage, jacks, tools, etc. in it but the M235i's motor is definitely better. I don't think the software in the M235i is the same as the power kit, it feels so much more responsive than any N55 I've driven. Almost doesn't feel turbocharged and it doesn't seem to run out of breath up top as badly as N55s typically do. It just pulls hard from any RPM and it sounds so great. The CLA 45 is much, much more laggy and its top end feels pretty soft compared to its extremely powerful midrange.

        Also, the CLA has a low redline and revs pretty freely so you need to be paying attention to avoid banging into the rev limiter, it slows you down for what feels like an eternity before it finally listens to your repeated requests for an upshift. M235i's auto has much better programming. I actually stopped using the CLA's paddles because there is a delay programmed into their response, that car is at its best with the transmission in S mode. It's actually very aggressive and keeps the revs way up high.

        When it comes to handling there is simply no comparison, the M235i was designed around the Pilot Super Sport which is one of my favorite tires and it just runs circles around the CLA, the BMW feels alive in your hands while the CLA just feels like any other small Benz. You can always tell the CLA is primarily front wheel drive, you get a fair amount of front wheel slip before it sends any torque to the rear and it actually torque steers a little.

        I'm pretty much rambling at this point, the CLA is a great, great car and it's ridiculously quick off the line but it doesn't make me want to own it. I NEED an M235i in my life.
        +1 I saw someone test driving one and they gunned it through 1st and 2nd. Sounded really good! I also noticed its dual exhaust, or is it single muffler and just dual tips? Not sure if the exhaust can be somehow made to fit on a 135, but would love it if it could.
      1. E90Company's Avatar
        E90Company -
        American companies took over in my books. I'm not fighting it any longer. Bmw's brand is ruined and I'm never going to drive a 4 cylinder car. You guys can have a 450hp NA V8, unbelievable handling and sound, decent interior and good looks all for cheaper than this pos M235i with the C7.
      1. bobS's Avatar
        bobS -
        It is amazing... For 10k more than a m235, you can have a c7 vette

        GM needs to ask more for that car lol...they would get it.
      1. richpike's Avatar
        richpike -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
        It is amazing... For 10k more than a m235, you can have a c7 vette

        GM needs to ask more for that car lol...they would get it.
        They are starting down that path (2015s are up $2k base and the Z51 package is up too). C7 looks to be a great car. I need to go drive one before they are $70k Click here to enlarge

        And I *really* want to like the M235i, but the curb weight is killing it for me. I know the engine will be fantastic, but I'm over the idea of just add more horsepower and don't worry about curb weight... Hopefully the M2 has a focus on weight reduction.

        -Rich
      1. onisyndicate's Avatar
        onisyndicate -
        I sat in a M235i today and CLA 250 and I have to say I liked interior feel of the M235i better. The CLA felt like putting a tall guy into a clown car!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        Please no, I spent the weekend in our shop's CLA 45 (~10 hour road trip and two track days) and I just test drove the M235i an hour ago. It's tough to say which car feels more powerful because I drove the M235i full of four people and the CLA had tons of luggage, jacks, tools, etc. in it but the M235i's motor is definitely better. I don't think the software in the M235i is the same as the power kit, it feels so much more responsive than any N55 I've driven. Almost doesn't feel turbocharged and it doesn't seem to run out of breath up top as badly as N55s typically do. It just pulls hard from any RPM and it sounds so great. The CLA 45 is much, much more laggy and its top end feels pretty soft compared to its extremely powerful midrange.

        Also, the CLA has a low redline and revs pretty freely so you need to be paying attention to avoid banging into the rev limiter, it slows you down for what feels like an eternity before it finally listens to your repeated requests for an upshift. M235i's auto has much better programming. I actually stopped using the CLA's paddles because there is a delay programmed into their response, that car is at its best with the transmission in S mode. It's actually very aggressive and keeps the revs way up high.

        When it comes to handling there is simply no comparison, the M235i was designed around the Pilot Super Sport which is one of my favorite tires and it just runs circles around the CLA, the BMW feels alive in your hands while the CLA just feels like any other small Benz. You can always tell the CLA is primarily front wheel drive, you get a fair amount of front wheel slip before it sends any torque to the rear and it actually torque steers a little.

        I'm pretty much rambling at this point, the CLA is a great, great car and it's ridiculously quick off the line but it doesn't make me want to own it. I NEED an M235i in my life.
        My rebuttal:

        Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
        American companies took over in my books. I'm not fighting it any longer. Bmw's brand is ruined and I'm never going to drive a 4 cylinder car. You guys can have a 450hp NA V8, unbelievable handling and sound, decent interior and good looks all for cheaper than this pos M235i with the C7.
        You're speaking my language.

        To hell with BMW.
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rawad1017 Click here to enlarge
        thanks for that. can you also tell us your experience as to which feels bigger to sit in, the 1 series vs. m235i?
        M235i has much more space, I owned a 135i for three years and I really liked it at lot but I got tired of always bumping my head (6'3"). The M235i only has a tiny bit more head room (still wish the power seats could go lower) but it feels much wider inside and rear seat room is definitely improved. It has a much nicer cabin overall than my 135i did.
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw335iguy Click here to enlarge
        +1 I saw someone test driving one and they gunned it through 1st and 2nd. Sounded really good! I also noticed its dual exhaust, or is it single muffler and just dual tips? Not sure if the exhaust can be somehow made to fit on a 135, but would love it if it could.
        BMW sells a Performance muffler for the 135i which sounds a lot like the M235i. You can get it from your dealer or find it cheaper online.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        M235i has much more space, I owned a 135i for three years and I really liked it at lot but I got tired of always bumping my head (6'3"). The M235i only has a tiny bit more head room (still wish the power seats could go lower) but it feels much wider inside and rear seat room is definitely improved. It has a much nicer cabin overall than my 135i did.
        I don't doubt it's roomier but this thing is basically a 3-Series. What's the point?
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I don't doubt it's roomier but this thing is basically a 3-Series. What's the point?
        It feels much more nimble than my brother's F30, I don't know how much of that is due to size/weight and how much is down to the new bushings, control arms, power steering calibration, tires, etc. that the M235i in particular has. The tires are a pretty big deal IMO, especially since it comes with non-runflats from the factory so the bushings, dampers, etc. are calibrated to match. The M235i's ride/handling is so far ahead of an F30 335i with the same M Adaptive Dampers, it really felt like an entirely different caliber of car in that area.

        And do your point about BMW's history with epic turbocharged 4 cylinder motors in F1, those things made peak power at 12,500+ RPM and were literally worthless below 10,000RPM. I don't doubt that BMW could make an even better motor than the already very good one in the CLA 45, but it's just nowhere near as pleasant as a straight six in terms of smoothness, power delivery, sound, etc.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Remonster Click here to enlarge
        It feels much more nimble than my brother's F30, I don't know how much of that is due to size/weight and how much is down to the new bushings, control arms, power steering calibration, tires, etc. that the M235i in particular has. The tires are a pretty big deal IMO, especially since it comes with non-runflats from the factory so the bushings, dampers, etc. are calibrated to match. The M235i's ride/handling is so far ahead of an F30 335i with the same M Adaptive Dampers, it really felt like an entirely different caliber of car in that area.

        And do your point about BMW's history with epic turbocharged 4 cylinder motors in F1, those things made peak power at 12,500+ RPM and were literally worthless below 10,000RPM. I don't doubt that BMW could make an even better motor than the already very good one in the CLA 45, but it's just nowhere near as pleasant as a straight six in terms of smoothness, power delivery, sound, etc.
        The motor I posted was the S14.

        You don't need to have a laggy four-cylinder. You can do a high compression turbo motor to mitigate lag especially with direct injection these days. The point I was ultimately making is that leveling the playing field on cylinder count and displacement means it shows who has the best skill. BMW tossing an N55 in to compete with the Audi inline-5 and AMG M133 four-cylinder means BMW can just be lazy due to their displacement advantage. They don't need to try as hard to make a 3.0 liter turbo six cylinder match a 2.0 liter four.

        Yes, the N55 will have less lag than the M133 from AMG. I find the M133 a much more impressive engineering exercise though.
      1. Remonster's Avatar
        Remonster -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The motor I posted was the S14.
        I actually didn't wait for the image to load and for some strange reason I assumed you would post that insane turbo four BMW built for F1 in the 80s.

        I agree about the M133 being an extremely impressive feat of engineering. The N55 is a fairly average turbo six by today's standards but it's still the much more exciting motor (in my opinion) from behind the wheel.
      1. Nugs's Avatar
        Nugs -
        Why are you comparing it to the 1M instead of the 135i?
        According to those figures it is slightly heavier and a bit quicker than a stock 135i.
        My car bone stock was 1560kgs (full tank no driver) and went 13.5 @104mph, 0-100 in 5.0 seconds.

        I think there is plenty of room for a M2, just make it wider, lighter and give it a DCT.
        I would love the performance of a M4 in a much smaller package. Unfortunately these cars aren't that small anymore.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nugs Click here to enlarge
        Why are you comparing it to the 1M instead of the 135i?
        Because it has an LSD, an M badge, and is the sportiest and most affordable two-door turbo coupe with a manual option in the BMW lineup?
      1. lulz_m3's Avatar
        lulz_m3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Because it has an LSD, an M badge, and is the sportiest and most affordable two-door turbo coupe with a manual option in the BMW lineup?
        It doesnt have an LSD, or even a factory option for the LSD. It's only available as a refit part from the dealer.