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    • More suspect Middle Eastern Porsche 991 Turbo 1/4 mile results - ESMotor claims a 9.62 @ 143 'bolt on' pass

      Why there is such a large disparity between US Porsche 991 Turbo performance and Middle Eastern times we have no clue. ESmotor claims this is their ES650 bolt on package on a Porsche 991 Turbo S. What are the details of this package? What they claim does not add up.


      Why you ask? Because to go 143 in the 1/4 mile on the 991 Turbo and Turbo S platform will require fuel system upgrades. What fuel system upgrades are they running? This is clearly necessary beyond the bolt on level which the factory fuel system does support.

      Also, a trap speed of 143 miles per hour is much more than 650 horsepower. Even at the wheels. Where is a dyno for this car?

      This network yet again can not explain Middle Eastern 1/4 mile anomalies or modifications. They say bolt on but do you really think this is the stock DME? Ekanooracing and ESMotor can claim to throw as much money as they want at a Porsche 911 Turbo S but you are not getting a 143 miles per hour pass out of it with bolt ons.

      Something just is not adding up unless you believe this:

      Emre@ESMotor:

      "Hello guys,

      Just to clarify the claims in the thread.

      The car has stock engine, never touched, and believe or not, it has completely stock fueling system.

      Its running our exhaust, headers, water/meth injection kit and our ecu module.

      It also has our "specific" alignment settings for better traction on the launch.

      Upgraded VTG's and upgraded intercoolers; i'm testing them on my personal car, i will release more information about them soon. "

      There is a video below but who knows if it is actually a 991 Turbo S that is running as you can not tell from the video. We have no explanation.

      A video posted by ESMOTOR (@esmotor) on



      This article was originally published in forum thread: More suspect Middle Eastern Porsche 991 Turbo 1/4 mile results - ESMotor claims a 9.62 @ 143 'bolt on' pass started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Water meth can help a lot in fuel if they are using it correctly...

        Edit: It's Ekanoo racing... They're known to have the fastest everything.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Edit: It's Ekanoo racing... They're known to have the fastest everything.
        Does that include the fastest growing pile of BS?
      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Does that include the fastest growing pile of BS?
        AFAIK, they don't really BS. They honestly know what they're doing, and make some great cars.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        AFAIK, they don't really BS. They honestly know what they're doing, and make some great cars.
        I've seen their cars. Yes, they are fast.

        The question is how they are going fast. How is a bolt on 991 Turbo going 143?

        Ok, turbos are upgraded. Water meth, fine. Is this a meth fire hose? Their ECU module. So... standalone?

        I mean question marks galore here. No US car is anywhere near this and GIAC has been doing stock DME tuning for a while.
      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I've seen their cars. Yes, they are fast.

        The question is how they are going fast. How is a bolt on 991 Turbo going 143?

        Ok, turbos are upgraded. Water meth, fine. Is this a meth fire hose? Their ECU module. So... standalone?

        I mean question marks galore here. No US car is anywhere near this and GIAC has been doing stock DME tuning for a while.
        Think about it this way. On full e40 blend my car would max out at around 550whp. I added meth with 2 nozzles, and was able to make 750whp. 200whp worth of fuel and IAT dropping and timing rising. Meth is wonderful when used properly.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
        Think about it this way. On full e40 blend my car would max out at around 550whp. I added meth with 2 nozzles, and was able to make 750whp. 200whp worth of fuel and IAT dropping and timing rising. Meth is wonderful when used properly.
        I've been here since the beginning when meth WAS the only way to make power.

        Where are the details from them? They say water meth. Well, are they using meth as a fueling crutch?

        Their statement that they are on the stock fuel system implies the stock fuel system supports this power. Like I said, tons of questions.
      1. Tony@VargasTurboTech's Avatar
        Tony@VargasTurboTech -
        To play devils advocate. Shiv still has the only 10 sec 1/4 mile N54 pass on a stock fuel system. How was this possible? 4 meth nozzles firehosing meth into the intake. So yes meth if you add enough of it will do some good thing even on a stock fuel system. Not saying that is what is happening here, but its plausible.
      1. TT C6's Avatar
        TT C6 -
        Water/Meth injection is HUGE and can allow a tuner to add BIG power due to the increased octane AND the cooling effect. Don't underestimate the capability of meth injection.

        Real tuners and guys like me who have been building cars for years already knew this.
        Welcome to the 1990s...........

        You all see the 2016 Camaro SS ???
        Since AMG completely FAILED with the C63 and AMG GT, I can't wait to buy my 2016 Camaro SS, add a centri, headers, and meth injection for 750rwhp.
        I'm looking forward to running 9's with good air/tires and will be embarrassing a lot of overpriced German cars. Click here to enlarge
        Although, I will always respect the 911 Turbo
        It's too bad Porsche continues to be a joke due to the RIDICULOUS prices and the gimping of the Cayman.
        It broke my heart that AMG denied the C63 the AWD and DCT it deserves.
        Both are very stupid companies. Very sad.
      1. ezec63's Avatar
        ezec63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        Water/Meth injection is HUGE and can allow a tuner to add BIG power due to the increased octane AND the cooling effect. Don't underestimate the capability of meth injection.

        Real tuners and guys like me who have been building cars for years already knew this.
        Welcome to the 1990s...........

        You all see the 2016 Camaro SS ???
        Since AMG completely FAILED with the C63 and AMG GT, I can't wait to buy my 2016 Camaro SS, add a centri, headers, and meth injection for 750rwhp.
        I'm looking forward to running 9's with good air/tires and will be embarrassing a lot of overpriced German cars. Click here to enlarge
        Although, I will always respect the 911 Turbo
        It's too bad Porsche continues to be a joke due to the RIDICULOUS prices and the gimping of the Cayman.
        It broke my heart that AMG denied the C63 the AWD and DCT it deserves.
        Both are very stupid companies. Very sad.
        Did you forget to take your meds again?? You were waiting for years for an AWD + TT v8 + DCT German car but decided to get a rwd N/A automatic American car. Sounds about right.
      1. rs97's Avatar
        rs97 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        Water/Meth injection is HUGE and can allow a tuner to add BIG power due to the increased octane AND the cooling effect. Don't underestimate the capability of meth injection.

        Real tuners and guys like me who have been building cars for years already knew this.
        Welcome to the 1990s...........

        You all see the 2016 Camaro SS ???
        Since AMG completely FAILED with the C63 and AMG GT, I can't wait to buy my 2016 Camaro SS, add a centri, headers, and meth injection for 750rwhp.
        I'm looking forward to running 9's with good air/tires and will be embarrassing a lot of overpriced German cars. Click here to enlarge
        Although, I will always respect the 911 Turbo
        It's too bad Porsche continues to be a joke due to the RIDICULOUS prices and the gimping of the Cayman.
        It broke my heart that AMG denied the C63 the AWD and DCT it deserves.
        Both are very stupid companies. Very sad.
        I'm still trying to wrap my head around what exactly you're doing on this forum...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rs97 Click here to enlarge
        I'm still trying to wrap my head around what exactly you're doing on this forum...
        Teaching us all how much smarter he is than AMG, Porsche, BMW, etc., by buying a Camaro he doesn't even own yet.

        He's waiting for the 2028 model with all wheel drive and a DCT. For $30k.
      1. rs97's Avatar
        rs97 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Teaching us all how much smarter he is than AMG, Porsche, BMW, etc., by buying a Camaro he doesn't even own yet.

        He's waiting for the 2028 model with all wheel drive and a DCT. For $30k.
        This is the model with the unvoidable warranty correct?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rs97 Click here to enlarge
        This is the model with the unvoidable warranty correct?
        Correct.

        He's spoken to some 'engineers' and knows all this information in advance. Just like he 'knew' the Z06 automatic was the same automatic they had in their trucks. Except it isn't: http://www.boostaddict.com/showthrea...ight=automatic
      1. rs97's Avatar
        rs97 -
        "You're stepping into my world now," AKA Land of the F*****g Lost.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rs97 Click here to enlarge
        "You're stepping into my world now," AKA Land of the F*****g Lost.
        Tittie is out of his $#@!ing mind Click here to enlargeClick here to enlargeClick here to enlarge
      1. Group.america's Avatar
        Group.america -
        Something fishy..... 100-200 kmh time in 5.2 secs, implies around 6.1 secs 60-130 mph which is more indicative of a 135-136 mph or so trap fwiw and not the top end HP to go 143 mph
      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Group.america Click here to enlarge
        Something fishy..... 100-200 kmh time in 5.2 secs, implies around 6.1 secs 60-130 mph which is more indicative of a 135-136 mph or so trap fwiw and not the top end HP to go 143 mph
        Kinda what I was wondering too. Terry would do 5.9s 60-130 and trapped 136 in a 1/4. Maybe their 1/4 mile is a bit longer? LOL
      1. Group.america's Avatar
        Group.america -
        yeah I was thinking

        0-100 = 2.2 secs = 62 mph and 5.2 100-200 kmh so lets say 2.2 + 6 (62-130 mph) = 8.2 secs 0 to 130 mph

        so would it take only another 1.2 seconds to go 130-143 mph maybe

        Their 1/8th mile is 111.8 mph approximately in an avg of 6.17 seconds. The McLaren 12C which just trapped 141 mph was doing the 1/8th mile in 114.5 mph

        and that car did 700 whp (EVOMS)

        http://www.dragtimes.com/McLaren-MP4...lip-27496.html

        so could a Porsche 991 TTS do 2.7 mph slower in the 1/8th mile and then pick up 2 mph on the top end in the 1/4 mile... unlikely to have a 4.7 mph difference especially with the MLaren doing a 9.9s 1/4 and 6.5s 1/8th
      1. ecpchris's Avatar
        ecpchris -
        I think 143 mph is a little optimistic but who knows. There was a upgraded turbo 997.2 that was running 138 traps and between 650-700 whp.
        I wouldn't doubt this was running standalone. That was the first thing that came to mind when I first heard about the runs. He also mentions he is running boost by gear, which I don't think is possible with a piggyback.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by TT C6 Click here to enlarge
        Water/Meth injection is HUGE and can allow a tuner to add BIG power due to the increased octane AND the cooling effect. Don't underestimate the capability of meth injection.

        Real tuners and guys like me who have been building cars for years already knew this.
        Welcome to the 1990s...........

        You all see the 2016 Camaro SS ???
        Since AMG completely FAILED with the C63 and AMG GT, I can't wait to buy my 2016 Camaro SS, add a centri, headers, and meth injection for 750rwhp.
        I'm looking forward to running 9's with good air/tires and will be embarrassing a lot of overpriced German cars. Click here to enlarge
        Although, I will always respect the 911 Turbo
        It's too bad Porsche continues to be a joke due to the RIDICULOUS prices and the gimping of the Cayman.
        It broke my heart that AMG denied the C63 the AWD and DCT it deserves.
        Both are very stupid companies. Very sad.
        You are living breathing proof of Poe's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law).
        I can't tell if you are just a troll or you really are so delusional that you actually think you are so smart.

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