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    Angry Obama's War Crimes

    Hardly mentioned in the mainstream media, and not brought up one time during the debates or election cycle by any candidate other than Ron Paul.



    What in the hell has happened to our country?


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    if a president is reactive to terrorist people complain, if the president is proactive people complain! I just dont get it, dont you people understand that war isnt a nice thing? Some times unfortunately there will be some ugly results and at times as well as collateral damage.

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    would you rather us go on the hunt after the next 9/11?? or make it so that there is no corner on earth for terrorist to hide like now!! This video is propaganda to only point out 20-30 unfortunate deaths but not to mentions the thousands that were done correctly and prevented future terrorist acts

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    He just says what people want to hear, nobody bothers to check what he actually does.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
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    if a president is reactive to terrorist people complain, if the president is proactive people complain! I just dont get it, dont you people understand that war isnt a nice thing? Some times unfortunately there will be some ugly results and at times as well as collateral damage.
    Um.... he is killing American citizens if he says so. That isn't proactive, that is a complete and utter violation of our rights. Due process used to be something important in the legal system. Now he doesn't even at the very least consult congress. Wonderful.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
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    would you rather us go on the hunt after the next 9/11?? or make it so that there is no corner on earth for terrorist to hide like now!! This video is propaganda to only point out 20-30 unfortunate deaths but not to mentions the thousands that were done correctly and prevented future terrorist acts
    Stop trying to scare people with the next 9-11 bull$#@!. That is no excuse for killing American citizens or curbing the freedom of Americans:

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    He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
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    if a president is reactive to terrorist people complain, if the president is proactive people complain! I just dont get it, dont you people understand that war isnt a nice thing? Some times unfortunately there will be some ugly results and at times as well as collateral damage.
    I do understand that war isn't a nice thing, which is why wars should be prosecuted quickly and with definitive exit criteria and strategy.

    What we have here is not a war, but rather a never-ending kill list which includes American citizens who are put to death not based on any evidence or outcome of a hearing or trial. All of these people are being put to death based on intelligence of various sources. Some sources may be credible, while others may be based entirely on hearsay as noted in the video. There is no chance for you to confront your accusers, disprove evidence, or make any sort of defense for yourself. One moment you are here; the next you are vaporized.

    The potential for blowback in the Middle East is unreal. The fact that we will soon have drones circling overhead in the US, and an administration that is on record for using this platform against its own citizens, is chilling.


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    no problem, if we wait until they do something we will have all the proof we need to attack! We have no clue what our administration knows about these people, being an american citizen doesnt make you a good person, the okc bomber was a us citizen...

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    After watching the entire season of Homeland in one day, this just seems all too eery...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Itsbrokeagain Click here to enlarge
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    After watching the entire season of Homeland in one day, this just seems all too eery...
    lol, im about to get caught up onwhat i missed so far from season 2.

    as someone who has "been there", EVERY AMERICAN has a right to due process, anything less sets a precendance for total control. Once war is DECLARED, it needs to be as swift as possible, as violent as possible in order to be over as soon as possible. anything less is unjust. Politicians should have ZERO input once it begins. what does that mean, that means POTUS needs to set a CLEAR GOAL on what he wants to achieve, and then let the big lean green machine go to work

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    What is disturbing is the justification of killing people. American or not, you are innocent until proven guilty.

    Of the potential candidates it is too bad for the rest of the world this guy got in. As I have said before the only one who seemed to understand was Paul.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
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    There is no chance for you to confront your accusers, disprove evidence, or make any sort of defense for yourself. One moment you are here; the next you are vaporized.
    Sounds American.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
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    What is disturbing is the justification of killing people. American or not, you are innocent until proven guilty.
    I think you meant guilty until proven innocent.

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    Same thing for Obamo...


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
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    Same thing for Obamo...
    Fine, but the point being guilty first and due process later.

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    and he was still voted in...what can i say.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    EVERY AMERICAN has a right to due process,
    Why only Americans?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DavidV Click here to enlarge
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    Why only Americans?
    That was actually one of my points.


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    Should Usama have gotten due process??

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MSIZZLE Click here to enlarge
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    Should Usama have gotten due process??
    Yes. That trial would have taken 10 minutes. Even the Nazis got their days in court.


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    This entire video is excellent, but start at 6:00 where Obama talks about how Bush abused the executive order to bypass Congress.



    And reality:

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...ers/obama.html

    Administration of Barack Obama (2009-Present)

    Disposition of Executive orders signed by President Barack Obama:

    • Subject Index
    • 2009 - E.O. 13489 - E.O. 13527 (39 Executive orders issued)
    • 2010 - E.O. 13528 - E.O. 13562 (35 Executive orders issued)
    • 2011 - E.O. 13563 - E.O. 13596 (34 Executive orders issued)
    • 2012 - E.O. 13597 - E.O. 13628 (32 Executive orders issued)


    Administration of George W. Bush (2001-2009)

    Disposition of Executive orders signed by President George W. Bush:

    • Subject Index
    • 2009 - E.O. 13484 - E.O. 13488 (5 Executive orders issued)
    • 2008 - E.O. 13454 - E.O. 13483 (30 Executive orders issued)
    • 2007 - E.O. 13422 - E.O. 13453 (32 Executive orders issued)
    • 2006 - E.O. 13395 - E.O. 13421 (27 Executive orders issued)
    • 2005 - E.O. 13369 - E.O. 13394 (26 Executive orders issued)
    • 2004 - E.O. 13324 - E.O. 13368 (45 Executive orders issued)
    • 2003 - E.O. 13283 - E.O. 13323 (41 Executive orders issued)
    • 2002 - E.O. 13252 - E.O. 13282 (31 Executive orders issued)
    • 2001 - E.O. 13198 - E.O. 13251 (54 Executive orders issued)


    Yes, seems much improved to me.


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    what a bullshitter.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DavidV Click here to enlarge
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    Why only Americans?

    i cant speak for a country that does not have it written by the people for the people, but you bring up a good point, except war is war. a government killing its own is a serious issue.

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    Yes. That trial would have taken 10 minutes. Even the Nazis got their days in court.
    Exactly. Once they just start killing whomever they want whenever they want... well, it's too late.

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    i cant speak for a country that does not have it written by the people for the people, but you bring up a good point, except war is war. a government killing its own is a serious issue.
    Whats this? I don't believe America is in a declared war with any country at present. Bid Laden was killed in Pakistan a country with which the US had no joint operational treaties. By setting its own moral code, Osamo likely now feels he has the authority to invade or operate and kill people within any country he chooses (whether the subject country allows it or not).

    With oil becoming a more and more precious commodity, what happens if Canada chooses to not sell oil to the US when the oil sands come fully online? Does that give Osamo the ok to kill the Prime Minister (with or without the UN consent) on the grounds the Canadian leader's interests are not in line with those of the US? Of course this is an extreme example but my point is, who gives Osamo the right to play god.


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