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    can we get 60-130 times out of the nissan gang? I cant race any of them until july when waterfest takes place in NJ but im down for some competition!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    lol, i just saw this is copied and pasted on a less realistic site and people are arguing the $#@! out of it, first that its not supercharged, when clearly the video shows it.. i guess they have a habit of not even watching the video, hearing that the m3 lost and coming up with excuses.. typical.. then another guy says, "who knows, maybe it was running a different kit" lol.. clearly shows the mentality

    Hahaha was that you started that thread??? I've posted in it a few times, most recently how someone said it must be a lower kit like the 535. Responded w/ that video of you vs. the 600 and there no real difference until 120+
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Hahaha was that you started that thread??? I've posted in it a few times, most recently how someone said it must be a lower kit like the 535. Responded w/ that video of you vs. the 600 and there no real difference until 120+
    no, i thought it was erm?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    no, i thought it was erm?

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    Who cares, I've never seen so many excuses -- "The M3 doesn't have an S/C", "it's not a 625 kit", "the Camaro's using spray", BLAH BLAH BLAH.
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    Im running a similar set up but down about 20 hp and had no problem with one SS then raced a friends and it hung pretty well, i was shocked. The TQ gets the weight moving pretty good but the top end on the M3 takes a little back in each gear.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
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    Thats not always true look at a viper 8.4L tq monster vs a z06.... or look at a viper vs a evo with 450whp the evo wins... Ill tell you what this camaro has a 6.3L or a 7L swap its not a 6.0 with cams and bolt ons....
    Maro has stock displacement,6.2L. It is a LS3 engine. Ls2 has the 6.0L

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    lol, i just saw this is copied and pasted on a less realistic site and people are arguing the $#@! out of it, first that its not supercharged, when clearly the video shows it.. i guess they have a habit of not even watching the video, hearing that the m3 lost and coming up with excuses.. typical.. then another guy says, "who knows, maybe it was running a different kit" lol.. clearly shows the mentality
    Any link?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 600whp S4 Click here to enlarge
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    Thats not always true look at a viper 8.4L tq monster vs a z06.... or look at a viper vs a evo with 450whp the evo wins... Ill tell you what this camaro has a 6.3L or a 7L swap its not a 6.0 with cams and bolt ons....
    More often than not it is the case. In terms of the EVO while its a 4cyl motor its got an incredible tq band and with 450whp they go damn well. If the EVO is anywhere near its boost curve its gonna be a problem. When done correctly it has very little in the way of lag.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AWD75 Click here to enlarge
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    Any link?
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    OMG these guys are just dumb... No clue about tq curves or for that matter what the Maro weighs. I'm no Maro fan but the weight difference is not that damn big bigger still maybe the M is just slow. They got him on the bottle, on DR's and quoting Grand Am announcers about the cars large frontal area for aero. They say its got forged internals LOL, do they not know it doesnt make you more power by itself or that in many cases its heavier rotating pieces thus taking more power to spin. Gotta love fan boys

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    lol....talk about butt hurt....did zim actually say that M3 wasnt supercharged?!.....lol
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    Cannot wait to see the amount of $#@! that I create by responding to erm about LM's 535 vs the 600
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    I think its a bit naive is all... I cant claim to know all about all cars as some people around here do. I stick to what I know and have experienced/witnessed. However these dudes really seem to believe a FI M3 is unbeatable. Here's my question when ESS says its a 600 kit, is that mean to be crank or who?
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    lol that thread is so funny...at least we have smart people here.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
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    Here's my question when ESS says its a 600 kit, is that mean to be crank or who?
    Yea, whenever it's the ESS-XXX, the XXX stands for BHP/Crank HP. BUT by some amazing forces, the ESS-625 kits are putting down 575 RWHP
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    I see and looks like ERM responded to your post...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
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    I see and looks like ERM responded to your post...
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    Clearly hit a nerve. I'm not even gonna go back & forth tho, this is the 2nd ESS owner that's brought up me having a 335 & somehow that makes me less knowledgeable/credible? Click here to enlarge

    LM, you might wanna fact check his claims
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Clearly hit a nerve. I'm not even gonna go back & forth tho, this is the 2nd ESS owner that's brought up me having a 335 & somehow that makes me less knowledgeable/credible? Click here to enlarge
    its ok man, they were worse when i had a 335.. oddly enough, it was a 335 that would have raped them Click here to enlarge I havent even read the comments yet. but, i guess you see the peoples real personalities. i mean, its like they have something to gain by blindly supporting something they have no control over. i wont be suprised when someone calls out AWD to race THEM! as if that justifies another car losing somehow.. oh well.

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    what's with people saying 'torque won the race' ... do you know how torque/hp even works?

    not to mention, they start at fairly high RPM, the M3 would have been WELL into it's upper power band.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
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    OMG these guys are just dumb... No clue about tq curves or for that matter what the Maro weighs. I'm no Maro fan but the weight difference is not that damn big bigger still maybe the M is just slow. They got him on the bottle, on DR's and quoting Grand Am announcers about the cars large frontal area for aero. They say its got forged internals LOL, do they not know it doesnt make you more power by itself or that in many cases its heavier rotating pieces thus taking more power to spin. Gotta love fan boys

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    Ya dude tons of all motor Camaro's trapping 130+ right?

    It isn't anything about torque. A roll on race is won by top end HP, period or you can go race a diesel. And you mention torque curve without even considering gearing.

    This race makes no sense. A 570 wheel DCT M3 isn't losing to a 520 whp Camaro. The problem is you don't know what pulley, flash, etc., ESS is running as they play games.

    I can tel you this much, my M3 would have crushed this Camaro. Not that the Camaro isn't quick but even blown LS3 camaros have been trapping in the 12X range so something is off here either on the M3 side not being as strong as proclaimed, which is likely, or the Camaro running stronger than portrayed.

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    Ya dude tons of all motor Camaro's trapping 130+ right?

    It isn't anything about torque. A roll on race is won by top end HP, period or you can go race a diesel. And you mention torque curve without even considering gearing.

    This race makes no sense. A 570 wheel DCT M3 isn't losing to a 520 whp Camaro. The problem is you don't know what pulley, flash, etc., ESS is running as they play games.

    I can tel you this much, my M3 would have crushed this Camaro. Not that the Camaro isn't quick but even blown LS3 camaros have been trapping in the 12X range so something is off here either on the M3 side not being as strong as proclaimed, which is likely, or the Camaro running stronger than portrayed.
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    what's with people saying 'torque won the race' ... do you know how torque/hp even works?

    not to mention, they start at fairly high RPM, the M3 would have been WELL into it's upper power band.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    I can tel you this much, my M3 would have crushed this Camaro. Not that the Camaro isn't quick but even blown LS3 camaros have been trapping in the 12X range so something is off here either on the M3 side not being as strong as proclaimed, which is likely, or the Camaro running stronger than portrayed.
    hey sticky - is your M3 all up and running now?

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