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    • Porsche launches the 2020 992 generation 911 - Carrera S and 4S pictures and specifications

      Porsche got a jump on their official launch at the Los Angeles International Auto Show later this week with an online launch of the new 992 generation 911. For now, only the 992 S and 992 4S models are detailed.


      What are the changes? You can clearly see the 993 inspired lines in the hood and the Panamera inspired rear lights. All 911's now have this strip in back connecting the lights and all 911's are widebody. They now have 20's up front and 21 inch tires in back.

      Power is up to 450 for the Carrera S. How?

      The next generation of flat-six turbocharged engines has been further developed andis more powerful than ever before, with 331 kW (450 PS) in the S models. The driveefficiency has been increased by way of an improved injection process and a newlayout for the turbochargers and charge air cooling system. The power is delivered bya newly developed eight-speed dual-clutch transmission
      We know the intercooler is now a single piece sitting over the motor rather than two pieces in the wheel arches. The manifolds have been changed.

      Based on previous engine details published but not confirmed in this Press Release the compression ratio is bumped up half a point to 10.5:1 while boost pressure remains at 16 psi. The Carrera S turbocharger is also larger with a 55mm compressor and 48mm turbine. Expect larger gains from an ECU tune.

      PDK goes to a new 8-speed with the shifter gone and replaced by some stupid looking knob:


      Why Porsche? Why? You literally had the perfect shifting setup. Now if you want to change gears manually you have to use the paddles and no longer have the choice of using the paddles or the gear lever. Whomever made this decision needs to be fired. The same goes for the guy who put the cup holder where it is.

      Other than the shifter decision everything else is a nice upgrade clearly inspired by the Panamera/Cayenne.

      We will see what the GTS, Turbo, and GT3 bring but for now there does not appear to be any reason to upgrade from a 991.2 which becomes an even bigger value.


















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      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        The rear looks tall like the tail lights are too high on the bumper.

        I like the hoot too and the front mostly looks good but the base front bumper with the big square mouth is pretty fugly, I bet the GTS Turbo and GT3 will look way better.

        The shifter isn't really a big deal, paddle shifters are better anyway if you are manually shifting it, there is no reason to use the stick except to pretend you have a manual lol.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
        The rear looks tall like the tail lights are too high on the bumper.

        I like the hoot too and the front mostly looks good but the base front bumper with the big square mouth is pretty fugly, I bet the GTS Turbo and GT3 will look way better.

        The shifter isn't really a big deal, paddle shifters are better anyway if you are manually shifting it, there is no reason to use the stick except to pretend you have a manual lol.
        Don't tell me how to shift my car.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        Don't tell me how to shift my car.
        Keep your hands on the wheel!
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
        Keep your hands on the wheel!
        How did anyone ever drive manual?
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        How did anyone ever drive manual?
        But you don't drive a manual...thats the whole point. The PDK shifts faster and you don't have to take your hands off the wheel.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        The price increase (as reported by MT) definitely hurts. Over 10k added after exchange. However I think that's including PDK, so only around ~7000 increase without that. (Assuming the manual is cheaper than the auto, if it's not... then I'll just be annoyed)
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
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      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        they are owned by the same company so i guess they are related.... Click here to enlarge

        Likes:
        wide body for all!
        nice screen

        Dislikes:
        front and rear bumpers aren't an improvement
        WTF shifter and cupholder
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Bowser330 Click here to enlarge
        they are owned by the same company so i guess they are related.... Click here to enlarge
        I know the comparison has been made before a lot over the years but the new one from that front angle looks a whole lot like a new beetle especially with the plain bumper.
      1. Surquhar's Avatar
        Surquhar -
        I like the exterior a lot, however I’m not liking the way they set up infotainment area of the dash. By adding those vents and interior trim under the infotainment system plus removing 12 or so buttons on either side the shifter, they totally removed the classic 911 cockpit feel for the driver.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by subaru335i Click here to enlarge
        But you don't drive a manual...thats the whole point. The PDK shifts faster and you don't have to take your hands off the wheel.
        The point is with PDK as is you have the choice. You don't have to have a clutch pedal to use a shift lever. The PDK is perfect.

        Now Porsche made the choice for you and you are relegated to the paddles. Why?

        How do I put it in auto mode instantly? Let's say I downshift manually to 2nd and a car comes up to me and I want perfect redline shifts. All I have to do after going WOT is push the shifter to the right and boom, perfect shifts.

        Same in the M3.

        How do I do it now? Keep it in auto the whole time?

        I don't think you have any experience with the PDK or how satisfying it is to shift if you are defending Porsche taking an option away as well as advocating for not using the shift lever which honestly works better than the paddles IMO especially if the wheels is turned to where it isn't easy to reach the paddle you want.