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    • Porsche increases 3.8 twin turbo flat-6 power to 650 for 2020/2021 Porsche 992 Turbo S

      The 992 generation reveal of the Porsche 911 Turbo is imminent. Porsche is giving journalists rides in test mules so they are pretty much just wrapping up formalities. The 2021 911 Turbo S is expected to provide 641 horsepower and 590 lb-ft of torque according to various reports.


      That works out to 650 metric horsepower or PS. This is of course routed to all four wheels through an 8-speed PDK (dual clutch) transmission.

      Is this enough for the 992 Turbo S to take on a McLaren 720S or Ferrari Pista? No, but the 911 Turbo is getting a healthy bump because those models exist. Porsche may even sandbag a bit but the 992 Turbo S likely will be a high 13X trap speed car in the 1/4 mile.

      The 992 Turbo S will get an increase of 61 horsepower and 37 lb-ft of torque over the 991.2 Turbo S. How is this achieved? With larger VTG turbochargers, more boost, a reworked intercooler system, and reworked exhaust.

      There are more details we are of course missing and things can change before the official debut. We will have more details then but the 992 Turbo S powerplant is a nice if modest improvement to the 3.8 liter twin turbo flat-6 we already know and love.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Porsche increases 3.8 twin turbo flat-6 power to 650 for 2020/2021 Porsche 992 Turbo S started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 18 Comments
      1. Payam@BMS's Avatar
        Payam@BMS -
        Pretty insane to be honest.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Payam@BMS Click here to enlarge
        Pretty insane to be honest.
        We'll see. Very competitive sector now.
      1. ttz06vette's Avatar
        ttz06vette -
        So is that 61 HP over the 991.1 or 991.2?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ttz06vette Click here to enlarge
        So is that 61 HP over the 991.1 or 991.2?
        991.2 Turbo S. My mistake, editing.
      1. 12 TURBO's Avatar
        12 TURBO -
        If the weight doesn't balloon with the added HP & torque and extra gear this might break into the 9's stock.
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        992 is heavier than 991.2 but faster due to obvious reason. For that money tho $200k+, a slighly used/used 720S is better IMHO.
      1. Bowser330's Avatar
        Bowser330 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        992 is heavier than 991.2 but faster due to obvious reason. For that money tho $200k+, a slighly used/used 720S is better IMHO.
        Comparing new to used Porsche still wins..used 720S are still $240K+ so plenty of room to modify the 992 turbo and make it a 720S competitor.

        The new gear ratios in the 8spd PDK make the 992 a much quicker accelerating car

        I think a FBO stock turbo 992 Turbo S would give a stock 720S a good fight
      1. Blown6's Avatar
        Blown6 -
        Isnt the new turbo 3700lbs?
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blown6 Click here to enlarge
        Isnt the new turbo 3700lbs?
        Probably. I don't understand why Porsche isn't more focused on weight loss.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        992 is heavier than 991.2 but faster due to obvious reason. For that money tho $200k+, a slighly used/used 720S is better IMHO.
        It's still $275k for a 720S.

        We're talking a $75k+ difference.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        It's still $275k for a 720S.
        Some of the cheaper ones are ~250k, and there's definitely more room to negotiate on the price of a used McLaren compared to a new 911 Turbo. Give it another 12 months and we'll definitely see sub 200k 720s on the market.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        Some of the cheaper ones are ~250k, and there's definitely more room to negotiate on the price of a used McLaren compared to a new 911 Turbo. Give it another 12 months and we'll definitely see sub 200k 720s on the market.
        Very optimistic. If this is true you'll see me in a 720S in 12 months.
      1. nbrigdan's Avatar
        nbrigdan -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        Very optimistic. If this is true you'll see me in a 720S in 12 months.
        I look forward to it Click here to enlarge there are 16 720S at 250k or less right now. 720S based at 285k, 675LT based at 350k, there are two 675LTs at 200k right now, so I am pretty confident we'll see the 720S price down there in the next year.
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky2 Click here to enlarge
        It's still $275k for a 720S.

        We're talking a $75k+ difference.
        You must not look at autotrader daily lol
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nbrigdan Click here to enlarge
        I look forward to it Click here to enlarge there are 16 720S at 250k or less right now. 720S based at 285k, 675LT based at 350k, there are two 675LTs at 200k right now, so I am pretty confident we'll see the 720S price down there in the next year.
        Alright then. McLarens for everyone!
      1. onfire's Avatar
        onfire -
        With Mac's reliability issues combined with high cost parts and smaller dealer network, I'm not surprised they don't hold their value. Heck, there were posts to not buy a 720S between x and xx vin numbers at any price due to break down costs. Love their power, not their reliability issues......but "I'm sure its improving".....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onfire Click here to enlarge
        With Mac's reliability issues combined with high cost parts and smaller dealer network, I'm not surprised they don't hold their value. Heck, there were posts to not buy a 720S between x and xx vin numbers at any price due to break down costs. Love their power, not their reliability issues......but "I'm sure its improving".....
        It's seriously that bad? Truly a British supercar it seems.
      1. onfire's Avatar
        onfire -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It's seriously that bad? Truly a British supercar it seems.
        When I sold my 2017 ZO6, I cross shopped a 19 Mac to a 19 TTS. The 720S power is a MAJOR draw for me. But 2 guys on the Vette forum kept posting break down pics of their Macs being enclosed trailered to the dealer for repairs. One finally sold his. So I joined Rennlist and kept looking. Found a couple of more issues there. That was enough combined with a 3 hour drive to the closest dealer to push me into a 19 TTS. Best "all rounder" I've owned. Gets less "gawk factor" than the ZO6 did so that is another plus on dinner runs.