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    • The Porsche 718 Cayman S manual may just be the world's best sports car - Test figures, curb weight, etc.

      Porsche never gave the Boxster or Cayman the respect they deserve because of the iconic status of the 911 in the lineup. You know what? That's fine. If you truly care about having the best driver's experience you might want to look at the 718 over the 911.


      Heresy you say? Well, explain why Porsche never gives the Boxster or Cayman equal power to the 911? Explain why Porsche moves the 911's engine forward inch by inch every generation?

      The answers are obvious. The mid-engine layout is preferred for handling balance and the lighter 718 will run circles around the 911 if given equal power. The 911 is artificially kept above the 718 and you pay a premium for the privilege.

      If a tenth of a second here or there does not matter to you the 718 Cayman S with a manual transmission is as close to motoring bliss as one can get. It is not as if the 2.5 liter boxer four-cylinder is slow either with the car running 12.4 @ 115 in the 1/4 mile. It will top a 991.1 generation Carrera in a sprint.

      The 718 is not about straightline speed though. It is about the all around package. At 3087 pounds it is lithe and agile. It pulls 1.04g on the skidpad but the way it goes about its grip and transitions is what makes it special.

      It is utterly frustrating that Porsche will not just once take the 718 chassis and powertrain and give it the same attention as they do to the 911. Would the world really end if the 718 beat the 911 for less money?

      Perhaps the best advocacy for how good the 718 Boxster and Cayman are is how Porsche treats it themselves. The car is so good it threatens the position, image, and future of the 911. What greater praise could there be?


      VEHICLE TYPE: mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door hatchback

      PRICE AS TESTED: $82,290 (base price: $67,350)

      ENGINE TYPE: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve flat-4, aluminum block and heads, direct fuel injection

      DISPLACEMENT: 152 cu in, 2497 cc
      POWER: 350 hp @ 6500 rpm
      TORQUE: 309 lb-ft @ 1900 rpm

      TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual

      DIMENSIONS:
      WHEELBASE: 97.4 in
      LENGTH: 172.4 in
      WIDTH: 70.9 in HEIGHT: 50.6 in
      PASSENGER VOLUME: 49 cu ft
      CARGO VOLUME: 15 cu ft
      CURB WEIGHT: 3087 lb

      C/D TEST RESULTS:
      Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec
      Zero to 100 mph: 9.3 sec
      Zero to 130 mph: 16.2 sec
      Zero to 150 mph: 24.8 sec
      Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.3 sec
      Top gear, 30-50 mph: 8.3 sec
      Top gear, 50-70 mph: 5.6 sec
      Standing ľ-mile: 12.4 sec @ 115 mph
      Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 177 mph
      Braking, 70-0 mph: 145 ft
      Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.04 g

      C/D FUEL ECONOMY:
      Observed: 19 mpg
      75-mph highway driving: 29 mpg
      Highway range: 490 miles

      EPA FUEL ECONOMY:
      Combined/city/highway: 22/20/26 mpg

      This article was originally published in forum thread: The Porsche 718 Cayman S manual may just be the world's best sports car - Test figures, curb weight, etc. started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 14 Comments
      1. Stevenh's Avatar
        Stevenh -
        Just needs a hybrid turbo and another couple pounds out for automotive perfection at a bargain.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stevenh Click here to enlarge
        Just needs a hybrid turbo and another couple pounds out for automotive perfection at a bargain.
        As this is a VTG turbo it is harder to upgrade.

        A tune and some bolt ons though and what more could you want?
      1. Stevenh's Avatar
        Stevenh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        As this is a VTG turbo it is harder to upgrade.

        A tune and some bolt ons though and what more could you want?
        Well have to judge results come in, but Im really not a fan of the torque mountains you typically get when tuning a stock turbo. I'm fine losing vgt and some spool if it flattens out the curve while picking up good power.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stevenh Click here to enlarge
        Well have to judge results come in, but Im really not a fan of the torque mountains you typically get when tuning a stock turbo. I'm fine losing vgt and some spool if it flattens out the curve while picking up good power.
        Yeah basically to get more power and a stronger pull to redline you'll have to ditch the factory turbo.
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Don't ruin my Friday pls as I don't want to feel regret...but that weight, look, tuning and mid-engine..quite a bargain!!! Plus the fact that I won't feel bad daily it and show up at work in a Cayman. I can't justify showing up at work in a 911. The owner has very strong opinion abt it unfortunately.
      1. Surquhar's Avatar
        Surquhar -
        I guess I’m in the minority here, but there is no way in hell I would pay 85k for a Cayman. They just look cheap to me and after driving one at a recent Porsche event I wasn’t impressed. Lots of other great cars at that price IMHO.
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Hmm...Porsche might drop Cayman and Boxter in the future...doubt it.

        https://carbuzz.com/news/future-of-t...oking-too-good
      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Surquhar Click here to enlarge
        I guess Iím in the minority here, but there is no way in hell I would pay 85k for a Cayman. They just look cheap to me and after driving one at a recent Porsche event I wasnít impressed. Lots of other great cars at that price IMHO.
        I might need to drive one but havent heard anyone dislikes mid-engine...
      1. Surquhar's Avatar
        Surquhar -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        I might need to drive one but havent heard anyone dislikes mid-engine...
        It’s not the mid engine, it’s not a 911. Period
      1. Stevenh's Avatar
        Stevenh -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        Hmm...Porsche might drop Cayman and Boxter in the future...doubt it.

        https://carbuzz.com/news/future-of-t...oking-too-good

        No way. Typical click-bait BS.
      1. zuffenhouse's Avatar
        zuffenhouse -
        "Would the world really end if the 718 beat the 911 for less money?"

        It does, actually. I'm not allowed to post hot links yet but go here fastestlaps.com/comparisons/7mf6nrn2djiu

        As with most comparisons from the Fastestlaps database, which mix best times at each matching speed/distance from different documented tests, there are anomalies. Plug-in 3.6 0-60mph from Car & Driver instead of the listed 'manufacturer's data', and that mph figure looks closer but still inconsistent with the kph data from multiple tests. But go with the weight of data and all kph measures support a faster, more-powerful 718S in this like-to-like comparison of PDK-equipped 9A2Bn turbo cars.

        How is this even possible when the B4 is by definition two-thirds of the B6, longitudinally? Well in the 718S it is further bored-out/over-square, has one much larger VTG turbo versus two smaller standard twins, and air-to-water intercooling. Somehow those differences combine to increase power beyond the extremely-understated 370hp factory rating of the base B6. Or so my analysis of this and other Fastestaps data leads me to conclude.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by zuffenhouse Click here to enlarge
        I'm not allowed to post hot links yet
        You can post links now.
      1. zuffenhouse's Avatar
        zuffenhouse -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stevenh Click here to enlarge
        I'm fine losing vgt and some spool if it flattens out the curve while picking up good power.
        In this case VTG allows the use of a larger single turbo while still providing n/a-like responsiveness otherwise requiring a separate twin turbo per bank. Racing drivers have stated 'can't tell this is a turbo'....

        But the 2.5 driven doesn't really beg for more power....that factory-rating 350hp is even more understated than its B6 turbo brothers....more like 390 true as indicated by several tuner baseline dyno measures as well as real-world performance data like 3.6sec 0-60mph, 8.5sec 0-100mph, 11.9sec quarter-mile. http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/jhio65dd8d7k
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by zuffenhouse Click here to enlarge
        But the 2.5 driven doesn't really beg for more power....
        I beg to differ.

        It is excellent execution by Porsche in stock form though.