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    • The world's best 911 is not produced by Porsche - Singer DLS 911

      You have heard of Singer. They take a classic 911 and restore/restomod it. They build incredible flat-6 engines in a classic Mezger air-cooled style. The cars get updated suspension components and the best materials possible to keep the weight down.


      Even their entry level builds at 390 horsepower weighing 2700 pounds perform incredibly well.

      The DLS (Dynamics and Lightweight Study) takes things considerably further:

      4.0 litre displacement, titanium valves, 4 per cylinder, dual overhead cams
      500 hp @ 9,000 rpm
      Extensive use of magnesium and lightweight materials to reduce mass
      Lightweight throttle bodies with F1-inspired upper and lower injectors to enhance performance and drivability
      Unique and optimized oiling system to improve lubrication and cooling

      This 911 started as a 1990 964 but now is a unique Singer build. You have magnesium engine pieces and carbon fiber body panels with revised aerodynamics. The engine was moved forward in the chassis.

      The suspension is a lightweight design with a multi-link, double wishbone system in the front. Aluminum trailing arms are featured in the rear.

      Even the manual transmission has magnesium casings to reduce weight. Oh, and don't forget the magnesium BBS wheels.

      Everything is built with an emphasis on reducing weight. Hence the carbon ceramic brakes and titanium center lock setup. Hence the carbon fiber interior pieces. Hence the carbon fiber, carbon ceramic, and magnesium you name it.

      So what does it weigh? Something around 2200 pounds.

      This just may be the best Porsche 911 in the world and it is not built by Porsche.






































































      This article was originally published in forum thread: The world's best 911 is not produced by Porsche - Singer DLS 911 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. axthomson's Avatar
        axthomson -
        Beautiful and Amazing. I need to win the poweball so I can buy one now.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Why Porsche doesn't do something like this themselves I have no clue.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        ^^^Regulations. If they sold them as new at least. Modifying older ones, they could get into...but Singer is a whole business until itself, I can understand why the manufacturers haven't quite caught on. These are 1.8 mill, I believe...or at least this example is. Could probably go higher if you wanted some super insane custom bits. I suppose no one thought this was possible. That's as much as Pagani or 'Egg. If you told someone 10-12 years ago or so that a custom vintage 911 would sell for that much easily, or that any of this would even be possible, they'd have laughed their asses off.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
        ^^^Regulations. If they sold them as new at least. Modifying older ones, they could get into...but Singer is a whole business until itself, I can understand why the manufacturers haven't quite caught on. These are 1.8 mill, I believe...or at least this example is. Could probably go higher if you wanted some super insane custom bits. I suppose no one thought this was possible. That's as much as Pagani or 'Egg. If you told someone 10-12 years ago or so that a custom vintage 911 would sell for that much easily, or that any of this would even be possible, they'd have laughed their asses off.
        Right but you don't have to go this far with it.

        BMW could get a few E30 M3's or even E30's they convert themselves to keep costs down and update them with modern bits.

        I don't understand why manufacturers don't tap into their past to do this.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        I bet they may start now that the market has proven it can handle something like this. I wish all manufacturers that made cars worth doing this to would do something like this...I suppose BMW and MB sort of do in the sense that they will fully restore a car to better-than-new status, for a steep price. Lamborghini doing this with older models would be awesome.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
        I bet they may start now that the market has proven it can handle something like this. I wish all manufacturers that made cars worth doing this to would do something like this...I suppose BMW and MB sort of do in the sense that they will fully restore a car to better-than-new status, for a steep price. Lamborghini doing this with older models would be awesome.
        Even Ford with the classic Mustang. This could go a ton of ways.

        Take a classic Mustang, update the suspension, give it a Coyote, and sell it for $75k or however much you can get.

        There are companies doing that for $200k+ right now.
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Right but you don't have to go this far with it.

        BMW could get a few E30 M3's or even E30's they convert themselves to keep costs down and update them with modern bits.

        I don't understand why manufacturers don't tap into their past to do this.
        Mazda is doing something like this for their old 1st gen NA Miata which is super cool. They aren't going as crazy as a singer but they are fully restoring them and modifying slightly like modern brakes and other bits.

        https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...y-restoration/
      1. subaru335i's Avatar
        subaru335i -
        I love everything about this Singer EXCEPT those nasty tail lights and exhaust tips. The headlights are kind of bad too but not as ugly as the tails. Ugh who thought that was a good idea? It looks like those mustangs that try to copy the Ford GT tail lights and fail.
      1. BLKROKT's Avatar
        BLKROKT -
        Don’t forget that Jaguar already started doing this by building new E-Types with some updated components using old unused VINs.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BLKROKT Click here to enlarge
        Don’t forget that Jaguar already started doing this by building new E-Types with some updated components using old unused VINs.
        Had no idea. That's awesome!
      1. BLKROKT's Avatar
        BLKROKT -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Had no idea. That's awesome!
        Yeah, it was an unexpectedly cool thing for them to do. Hope more manufacturers follow!

        https://www.jaguarusa.com/about-jagu...ht-e-type.html
        https://www.jaguarusa.com/about-jagu...-restored.html
        https://jalopnik.com/take-a-deep-div...ght-1715641806
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Anyone else notice the redline is 9300 rpm? Holy $#@!...
      1. SpeedLimit?'s Avatar
        SpeedLimit? -
        Nissan did what you guys are talking about with the R34 Z-Tune and I think it was very successful for them. https://www.topgear.com/car-news/mot...-z-tune-gt-r#1